A small note, before the bigger note.
Apr. 27th, 2015 08:08 amSo I have just finished my guest editor slot with Queers Destroy Science Fiction!, the latest special issue from Lightspeed Magazine. It's a follow-up to last year's Women Destroy Science Fiction!, and I am so excited for all of you to read it. So very, very excited.
I am going to have a longer post about the experience of editing and the things I observed (with no "and then this person did this thing," because that is not helpful), but this is a distinct thing, and so I wanted to talk about it first, in isolation. And here it is:
The other night I was out at dinner with a bunch of friends and friends-of-friends, which meant that some of the people there didn't know who I was. Arley, who was one of my editorial assistants on the issue, was there, and he and I started chatting a little about QDSF. At which point someone else at the table, who didn't realize I had been the editor, said, "Oh, I was told not to bother submitting unless I knew the editor."
Someone told her, straight up, that she would not make it into the issue if she didn't know the editor—which is to say, me—personally.
Um.
I did not burst into tears or throw a chair, but I thought of both things. I thought it loudly enough that any local telepaths were probably frightened.
There are eleven stories in this special issue, selected from more than four hundred submissions. Of those eleven, two were solicited, because you need "marquee names" before you can expect people to support a Kickstarter. One, Amal, was (and is) a friend of mine. The other, John, is someone I know in passing and am professionally friendly toward, but he's not a friend. Of the remaining nine stories, one was written by a friend of mine. Before I was willing to accept it, I asked both my editorial assistants and one slush reader to read it, to make sure that I was not unduly favoring someone with whom I had a social relationship. The other eight stories were by people I don't know. People I've never met. Some were by people who have never had a sale before. I was able to help people accomplish their first sales, and that's something that I'm really, really proud of.
John Joseph Adams, who is the publisher and editor of Lightspeed, knows me. He considers me, so far as I know, a friend. He buys my shit all the time. You know why? Because it's good, and because my name sells magazines. Not because he is my friend. When he first started buying my shit, it didn't necessarily sell magazines, but it was good (she said, modestly). He has refused to buy some of my shit. Why? Because it was not good enough, or because it didn't fit the guidelines, or because he needed something different to fill that space. Because despite being my friend, he is also a professional.
No one got into Queers Destroy Science Fiction! with a story that was not good, or did not fit the guidelines, just because they were my friend. No one got in just because they were my friend, period. Because I am a professional, and I wanted to put together the best issue possible. That was my job.
Telling people "oh, you've got to know the editor" is completely counter to the purpose of the Destroy projects, which are all about throwing the doors open and encouraging the underrepresented group in the title (first women, now QUILTBAG individuals) to come in, since so often it's felt like the door said "keep out." That would be completely undermined by a policy that required the writer to know the editor in order to make a sale. That sort of policy would break my heart, and would definitely have kept me from accepting the position.
The submissions periods for Queers Destroy Horror! will end May 1st; the submissions period for Queers Destroy Fantasy! will open May 1st. Both will be edited by professionals (Wendy Wagner for QDH; Christopher Barzak for QDF). Anyone who makes it into those issues will be there because they wrote good stories that fit the needs of the issue, not because they have an "in." There is no one with a secret "in."
I can't help but be somewhat hurt by the idea that writers may have thought this was the case, or have been telling people that it was. I've been struggling to think of what I could have done to give this impression, and I've come up with nothing. I can promise you that the doors were wide open for QDSF, and that anyone queer-identifying was welcome. The same is true for QDH and QDF. If you fall within the QUILTBAG and you have a story for them to consider, please submit. Do it whether you know anyone at the magazine or not.
We need your stories.
I am going to have a longer post about the experience of editing and the things I observed (with no "and then this person did this thing," because that is not helpful), but this is a distinct thing, and so I wanted to talk about it first, in isolation. And here it is:
The other night I was out at dinner with a bunch of friends and friends-of-friends, which meant that some of the people there didn't know who I was. Arley, who was one of my editorial assistants on the issue, was there, and he and I started chatting a little about QDSF. At which point someone else at the table, who didn't realize I had been the editor, said, "Oh, I was told not to bother submitting unless I knew the editor."
Someone told her, straight up, that she would not make it into the issue if she didn't know the editor—which is to say, me—personally.
Um.
I did not burst into tears or throw a chair, but I thought of both things. I thought it loudly enough that any local telepaths were probably frightened.
There are eleven stories in this special issue, selected from more than four hundred submissions. Of those eleven, two were solicited, because you need "marquee names" before you can expect people to support a Kickstarter. One, Amal, was (and is) a friend of mine. The other, John, is someone I know in passing and am professionally friendly toward, but he's not a friend. Of the remaining nine stories, one was written by a friend of mine. Before I was willing to accept it, I asked both my editorial assistants and one slush reader to read it, to make sure that I was not unduly favoring someone with whom I had a social relationship. The other eight stories were by people I don't know. People I've never met. Some were by people who have never had a sale before. I was able to help people accomplish their first sales, and that's something that I'm really, really proud of.
John Joseph Adams, who is the publisher and editor of Lightspeed, knows me. He considers me, so far as I know, a friend. He buys my shit all the time. You know why? Because it's good, and because my name sells magazines. Not because he is my friend. When he first started buying my shit, it didn't necessarily sell magazines, but it was good (she said, modestly). He has refused to buy some of my shit. Why? Because it was not good enough, or because it didn't fit the guidelines, or because he needed something different to fill that space. Because despite being my friend, he is also a professional.
No one got into Queers Destroy Science Fiction! with a story that was not good, or did not fit the guidelines, just because they were my friend. No one got in just because they were my friend, period. Because I am a professional, and I wanted to put together the best issue possible. That was my job.
Telling people "oh, you've got to know the editor" is completely counter to the purpose of the Destroy projects, which are all about throwing the doors open and encouraging the underrepresented group in the title (first women, now QUILTBAG individuals) to come in, since so often it's felt like the door said "keep out." That would be completely undermined by a policy that required the writer to know the editor in order to make a sale. That sort of policy would break my heart, and would definitely have kept me from accepting the position.
The submissions periods for Queers Destroy Horror! will end May 1st; the submissions period for Queers Destroy Fantasy! will open May 1st. Both will be edited by professionals (Wendy Wagner for QDH; Christopher Barzak for QDF). Anyone who makes it into those issues will be there because they wrote good stories that fit the needs of the issue, not because they have an "in." There is no one with a secret "in."
I can't help but be somewhat hurt by the idea that writers may have thought this was the case, or have been telling people that it was. I've been struggling to think of what I could have done to give this impression, and I've come up with nothing. I can promise you that the doors were wide open for QDSF, and that anyone queer-identifying was welcome. The same is true for QDH and QDF. If you fall within the QUILTBAG and you have a story for them to consider, please submit. Do it whether you know anyone at the magazine or not.
We need your stories.
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Date: 2015-04-27 03:17 pm (UTC)I wanted to submit to the first special issue and was intimidated by all the folks on Twitter who were planning on submitting. I see their names, know they're already published, and figure they're better than me/have a better chance than me. It was nothing against the editor, no feelings that there would somehow be unfairness.
So, I understand where this person was coming from.
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Date: 2015-04-27 03:22 pm (UTC)Also: lots of people say that they're going to submit to something like this. Most of them...don't. Or don't send in something we need, something that fits the guidelines, etc. All of those already published people became already published by submitting, not by self-rejecting before they stepped out of the gate.
I would say that there were three "big fish" in this issue, alongside multiple first-time authors and unknowns.
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Date: 2015-04-27 03:33 pm (UTC)It's good to hear, from the inside, that unpublished writers really should take the chance to submit.
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Date: 2015-04-27 04:56 pm (UTC)FWIW I haven't seen you or anyone involved with the project giving off any "friends only" vibes.
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Date: 2015-04-27 08:17 pm (UTC)if you dont take a chance, the worst they can say is No, by not submitting you have already told yourself No. Take a Chance! I say to folks like that.
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Date: 2015-04-27 08:29 pm (UTC)It seems like this seed, which I may have seen on Metafilter, or in the recent Hugo debates, could have grown into some twisted fruit. However, I don't feel like I saw this long enough ago. More likely fairly recently, which might not fit your timeframe of when people were thinking about submitting.
(All of the quotation marks are really vague paraphrase marks.)
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Date: 2015-04-27 09:40 pm (UTC)I mean, I can understand the "oh, I am X, I am hence discriminated against by Y Destroy SF" logic, even if I think it's awful, lousy logic. Step the fuck back. There will always be projects that "discriminate" in that sense, on grounds ranging from "Canadian authors" to "authors who have dogs." One project does not a body of work make.
But I think you're right, that this convo is too recent to have led to those feelings about QDSF.
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Date: 2015-04-28 05:17 pm (UTC)When there is a call out it's a different because you are asking people to submit, so you are going to read all the submissions. Also the parameters are different if it is for a themed journal or anthology, i.e. asking how well a story connects with our theme?
I suspect, as others have mentioned, someone was justifying not submitting, and happened to convince another person (or more than one) not to submit either.
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Date: 2015-04-27 11:44 pm (UTC)I think some of that misinformation comes from "it depends on who you know" that bleeds over from several different areas, but writing is its own bag of tricks. Advice, yes,. That helps. But your own talent will be what gets you in the door.
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Date: 2015-04-28 01:50 am (UTC)That's what I think you're trying to communicate. You want the best stories in your anthology. If someone can write them, but won't submit, he isn't helping you out any.
-- Robin
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Date: 2015-05-01 01:06 am (UTC)Submission is good
Date: 2015-04-28 08:29 pm (UTC)Until it's safe to be a queer author, specialized anthologies are going to be required, and I salute your hard work in making that happen. Jealousy, trolling, and misinformation are going to happen even in relatively enlightened parts of the fantastic press/media. Yours is a clear voice. With luck it will cut through the fog and the mire.
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Date: 2015-04-28 09:35 pm (UTC)Would you at some point do the literary equivalent of calling all of your friends and saying "Let's put on a
showbook" - absolutely.And I'd buy the hell out of it.
But would you allow favoritism to affect a project like this? I barely know you and I can't wrap my head around it.
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Date: 2015-05-14 01:06 am (UTC)All my experience with you has been that you are a complete pro and that your professional ethics are impeccable. And, for that matter, my (admittedly limited) experience with JJA is that he, too, is a complete pro who would not allow a guest editor to behave that way, either. (FWIW, I was asked if I was interested in being an illustrator for QDSF, and the very first hoop to jump through was "JJA needs to see your SF art". I had to tell the art director I don't actually *have* any, which, yes, means I don't have an illustration in QDSF.) Lightspeed is NOT a publication run on nepotism.
And now, knowing that you are the editor, I am REALLY looking forward to reading it!
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