Person and persona, and riding the line.
Jun. 20th, 2012 01:16 pmIn wandering aimlessly down the primrose paths of the internet, I recently encountered a comment from someone* who found my online persona "grating." Now, no one really likes to be called grating, unless they're in the middle of preparing cheese for the pizza, but they weren't calling me grating, they were calling my online persona grating. Except, of course, for the assumption built into that statement, that the online persona is inherently different from the person behind it.
I think everyone online has an aspect of "persona" to them, if only because ideally, on the internet, you have the opportunity to think before you press "submit." Not everyone does, but the option is still there, for all of us. We filter out certain aspects of ourselves: the faces we present to the world are not exactly one-to-one identical to the faces we present in private. I'm a little wittier on the internet, because I never have to deal with l'esprit d'escalier. On the internet, it doesn't matter that I can't pronounce l'esprit d'escalier (my French pronunciation is so bad it's comical).
I swear a little less on the internet, because I have to think about the process of typing out the word. "Shut your fucking face, you fucking fucker" rolls trippingly off the tongue, but it doesn't fall quite so easy from the fingers. I don't usually document how many times I need to pee. And yeah, since I come from the "do not air your dirty laundry in public" school of thought, I can come off as a bit of a perpetual Marilyn Munster when I really tend to flux between being a Marilyn and being a Wednesday. I let my cynicism off the leash sometimes, but I've found that it's more effective when I don't live and breathe in a haze of grumpy.
Also, I really am inappropriately enthusiastic about everything. Soda. Movies. Commercials that I really like. Street pennies. Peeing. I love peeing! I mean, I don't pee on trees or anything, but I really like it when I go into the bathroom feeling uncomfortable, and come out feeling a-okay. Plus it's an excuse to sit and read, and who doesn't love that? People who are around me in the real world are likely to get treated to a constant stream of alternatingly perky and snarlingly homicidal sound bytes. "Gosh, trees are nice, I like trees I WILL DESTROY ALL WHO THWART ME do you think maybe we should go back to Disneyland in October SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG RARRRRRHGHGHGHGH oh hey juice." Most of these things never make it online, because they're fleeting impulses, or because I don't feel like providing an ocean of context to make them make sense.
I guess that's really where internet persona comes in, at least for me: I make more sense online. I have less visible downtime, I'm a little less random, and I'm a little more measured with my swearing. I'm just as perky, and just as cranky, it's just not a twenty-four/seven thing. It's really important to me that I not be artificial online, because I spend so much time interacting with people offline, and I don't want to be reading from a script every time I do a public appearance. (Although that would be hysterical. I should write a "being Seanan at a book signing script," and start tapping people to stand in for me while I go to get myself another soda.) Filtered doesn't mean shallow, and thoughtful doesn't mean fake.
On the balance of things, I think you can tell whether or not you'd like me in person from listening to me online, as long as you remember that there's a whole third dimension offline, and that I can sometimes use that third dimension to run into traffic after red balloons, or produce seemingly random frogs. And I find that pretty cool.
Thoughts?
(*Who will not be named here, you know the drill, and everyone has the right to an opinion.)
I think everyone online has an aspect of "persona" to them, if only because ideally, on the internet, you have the opportunity to think before you press "submit." Not everyone does, but the option is still there, for all of us. We filter out certain aspects of ourselves: the faces we present to the world are not exactly one-to-one identical to the faces we present in private. I'm a little wittier on the internet, because I never have to deal with l'esprit d'escalier. On the internet, it doesn't matter that I can't pronounce l'esprit d'escalier (my French pronunciation is so bad it's comical).
I swear a little less on the internet, because I have to think about the process of typing out the word. "Shut your fucking face, you fucking fucker" rolls trippingly off the tongue, but it doesn't fall quite so easy from the fingers. I don't usually document how many times I need to pee. And yeah, since I come from the "do not air your dirty laundry in public" school of thought, I can come off as a bit of a perpetual Marilyn Munster when I really tend to flux between being a Marilyn and being a Wednesday. I let my cynicism off the leash sometimes, but I've found that it's more effective when I don't live and breathe in a haze of grumpy.
Also, I really am inappropriately enthusiastic about everything. Soda. Movies. Commercials that I really like. Street pennies. Peeing. I love peeing! I mean, I don't pee on trees or anything, but I really like it when I go into the bathroom feeling uncomfortable, and come out feeling a-okay. Plus it's an excuse to sit and read, and who doesn't love that? People who are around me in the real world are likely to get treated to a constant stream of alternatingly perky and snarlingly homicidal sound bytes. "Gosh, trees are nice, I like trees I WILL DESTROY ALL WHO THWART ME do you think maybe we should go back to Disneyland in October SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG RARRRRRHGHGHGHGH oh hey juice." Most of these things never make it online, because they're fleeting impulses, or because I don't feel like providing an ocean of context to make them make sense.
I guess that's really where internet persona comes in, at least for me: I make more sense online. I have less visible downtime, I'm a little less random, and I'm a little more measured with my swearing. I'm just as perky, and just as cranky, it's just not a twenty-four/seven thing. It's really important to me that I not be artificial online, because I spend so much time interacting with people offline, and I don't want to be reading from a script every time I do a public appearance. (Although that would be hysterical. I should write a "being Seanan at a book signing script," and start tapping people to stand in for me while I go to get myself another soda.) Filtered doesn't mean shallow, and thoughtful doesn't mean fake.
On the balance of things, I think you can tell whether or not you'd like me in person from listening to me online, as long as you remember that there's a whole third dimension offline, and that I can sometimes use that third dimension to run into traffic after red balloons, or produce seemingly random frogs. And I find that pretty cool.
Thoughts?
(*Who will not be named here, you know the drill, and everyone has the right to an opinion.)
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:28 pm (UTC)Hmm, not random enough?
Hugs to you!
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:30 pm (UTC)"Seanan Stunt Double #86 to the register, please!"
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:34 pm (UTC)Oh really? And here I had read your enthusiasm as being a) high-energy, though sometimes it seems you force yourself to keep going so you don't stop at an inconvenient place, and b) genuinely enjoying a lot of things, and finding them interesting.
I don't find your online personna grating. I'd really like to meet you, but I'm not sure how you'd react to somewhat-random somewhat-stranger at a con offering you a six pack of Diet Dr Pepper and thanking you for the introduction to Shaun and George.
Please keep being you, as you see fit. I like who you present as, but bottom line, it doesn't matter a shed whisker what I like. If you can look in the mirror and be comfortable with who you see there, that's a hell of an achievement that a lot of us never reach. I hope you're there more often than not.
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Date: 2012-06-20 10:44 pm (UTC)Your online persona makes me laugh and I like reading your stuff.
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:36 pm (UTC)These are things I also love about peeing.
I think sometimes I am more "myself" online. My day job requires me to be polite and not swear, and keep my random nonsensical outbursts to a minimum. So I tend to let those outbursts escape on Twitter and Facebook and Livejournal, where nobody will look at me funny if I talk about how much I love megalodons or my opinions on the legalisation of weed or whatever. I do think, as a very little and relatively unknown author, I want to project an image of being approachable and nice online, I worry if sometimes that comes across as trying too hard.
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Date: 2012-06-22 02:11 am (UTC)I've never picked up the "trying too hard" vibe, but I'm also crazy-forgiving of people being odd, because I myself am odd, and it just seems normal.
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Date: 2012-06-21 02:23 pm (UTC)I really wish people didn't expect everything to always be about their own personal likes and dislikes.
even though I can be damned opinionated too. but then, I'm usually right (said with a completely straight face, before I bust into guffaws)
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:39 pm (UTC)Oh, and thoughts... I agree that it's good to be yourself online when eventually someone wants to meet the same online person in person. On the other hand, I admit that in 2009 I made a second LJ so that I could show off two faces of the dodecahedron that I am without having people complain about massively conflicting personalities. I'm a little sorry, but mostly not, because it helps keep a lot of the context in context when I'm having mutliple-week monologues about something.
Your mileage may vary.
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:40 pm (UTC)Also, there's a reason my father's favorite line when he needs to use the bathroom is, "I'm going to go visit the library." Hooray for bathroom reading!
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:42 pm (UTC)I enjoy your online persona and I expect that I'd enjoy your physical space persona as well.
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Date: 2012-06-22 04:22 am (UTC)Also, a quote for you
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:43 pm (UTC)You just keep on being you. After all, you do you best and we get to enjoy the result.
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Date: 2012-06-22 04:22 am (UTC)Pennies
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:57 pm (UTC)Really, I wouldn't worry too much about someone who finds your online persona grating. There seem to be plenty of us who like you just fine the way you are.
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Date: 2012-06-20 08:59 pm (UTC)(Feeling snarky today.) (And parenthetical.)
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:02 pm (UTC)I think that's good and healthy.
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:18 pm (UTC)Now me, I'm Ms Nice-Polite-Girl on-line, in the main, with intermittent outbreaks of angsting, and tendencies to long silences. While in person, as you may have noticed, I talk too much, and can have a sharp edge to my tongue. Also, I'm too tall. But luckily on the internet, no-one can see that.
I was trolled a couple of weeks back, which was nasty and painful and has left some sticky residue, which I regret. You have my sympathy about the unkind comment you received.
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:20 pm (UTC)I have, of course never met you. But you sound like a thoughtful and interesting person. Not grating at all. So there!
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:48 pm (UTC)a constant stream of alternatingly perky and snarlingly homicidal sound bytes.
I do that too. It gives some people whiplash! My fleeting impulses are very bizarre.
I also completely understand and sympathize with this post, because people have called my online persona "irritating" and "annoying" and "knows too much" and "obsessive." Well, that's their thoughts, I won't stop them. I'll correct them if I know they're wrong, and sometimes they really don't like me...
I don't like being artificial online. I don't see the point in playing myself as a character. There are a lot of people I know, and almost all of them are online, and I would rather be honest and show my crazy, and I wish I didn't care if someone finds me hard to be around online.
In a non sequitur, I still ponder how, in the Futurama episode 'Benderama', the microscopic Bender copies could have converted every single water molecule on Earth to alcohol molecules, because there was bottled water everywhere sealed up, or would the tiniest atomic Benders have gotten into them, and also, what happened to the animals and plants? Did they all die? And if it took six days to get back to normal, why weren't there any reports of death by dehydration and alcohol poisoning? And couldn't they have brought in water from other planets? Or would the tiny Benders have converted those H2O molecules too just because it was water that existed?
(That's how my mind works. In the middle of conversations about anything. It's just harder to do it online.)
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:49 pm (UTC)Did you have something to do with the mass emigration of baby toads in Ottawa yesterday? If so, I'm even more impressed by your skills.
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Date: 2012-06-22 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 09:51 pm (UTC)As to peeing giving you time to sit and read -- you must have more accomodating cats than I do. They consider this prime time to sit and pet the cat. The master bath is petting territory for Kaylee, and Malcolm owns the guest bath.
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Date: 2012-06-20 10:29 pm (UTC)Yes, this. You aren't different people, you're different facets of the same jewel.
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:59 pm (UTC)For the good of the Internet! :)
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