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I am currently trying to transform my place of residence from a welter of stuff* into something halfway functional. I have a lot of motivation. I not only want to have a viable idea of what I have, thus telling me what I need to acquire if I want to finish various collections, I want to get rid of things that I don't really want. That way, I can pack with more assurance. Every move is focused on that sweet eventual goal: Seattle. I want to get out of the Bay Area, and after co-habitation with The Housemate for over a decade, my extraction has to be slow and careful, lest we wind up going to war over who owns that battered old paperback book.**

Some of the de-cluttering efforts are obvious. For example, I am putting books in boxes, indexing their contents, and putting the boxes in a big stack of boxes (also filled with books). I am putting things I have no emotional attachment to/desire to keep in other boxes, and sending them away on a regular basis. I am freely giving things to strangers. Other efforts are less obvious. I bought two new cat trees, because cats knock stuff over, thus creating more mess than they will when given places of their own. I've been saving boxes, which makes more mess, at least until the boxes are filled and put away. And so on.

My brain is no tidier. In trying to clean up my link list, I found things that have literally been waiting for their shining moment for up to two years. Will I ever really get around to some of these? No. No, I will not. That makes me sad, but I'd like to see the floor in my rotating "to do" file someday, just like I'd like to see it in my kitchen, and so away they go. Farewell, sweet links. I hardly knew ye.

Still. Once, Feed was a best-selling title in an Australian bookstore. I was nominated for a Romantic Times award. Apex put out an anthology with my wacky Fighting Pumpkins alien invasion story in it. And I needed to take a nap.

I will probably do some really random review posts in the next few days, just to clear out some links that have waited long past their best-by date. This has never been a judgment on those reviews in specific; it's just how out of control the file has gotten. I need a maid to go with that nap, I swear.

Anybody want to come over and help me index stuff?

(*Let's be clear here: most of it is good stuff. That's why it's there. But not all of it is good stuff. Some of it is bad stuff. Some of it is the kind of stuff that seemed like good stuff six years ago, when I was a different person, or when I really thought that someday I, too, would be a world-class guitarist. And some of it, sad to say, is crap.)

(**If you don't think this is something worth going to war over, you're either not a bibliophile or have never had someone try to take one of your best-beloved books away from you. Not being in the mood to start global thermonuclear destruction, I am doing my best to avoid this.)
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Date: 2011-07-14 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikiera.livejournal.com
I stopped lending best-beloved books when my Sword and Sorceress 3 - the one with the several first short stories that launched series went missing - and I couldn't remember who had it and no one stepped forward.

Eventually, they reprinted it, but I spent YEARS trying to find one that was less than $100.

I can fully understand the need to carefully extract one's books.

Date: 2011-07-15 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
...ouch.

Glad this had a happy ending.

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Date: 2011-07-14 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biomekanic.livejournal.com
Every move is focused on that sweet eventual goal: Seattle... you know, Portland is on that path, and we would happily tolerate your presence here for a decade or so.

Date: 2011-07-15 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
But Portland hasn't got a Vixy.

Date: 2011-07-14 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvertwi.livejournal.com
**If you don't think this is something worth going to war over, you're either not a bibliophile or have never had someone try to take one of your best-beloved books away from you. Not being in the mood to start global thermonuclear destruction, I am doing my best to avoid this.

Slightly related: I had my brother tell me the other day that his roommate is replacing my loaner copy of Deadline because "If I had known it was your sister's book, I would have been more careful with it." Witness the reason I bought two copies and the only person besides me who has touched my personal copy is my mother. On the bright side, more cat food for your lovelies, assuming he actually buys it, and doesn't just put it off forever. ETA: If he puts it off until Blackout comes out, I will probably end up buying the replacement copy, along with two copies of Blackout. Either way, you (eventually) win! gffy<--Cat says hi!
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Date: 2011-07-14 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormsdotter.livejournal.com
My copy of Feed is out on loan to someone in my writing group, but I forget who. I need to grumph at my friend who borrowed my ElfQuest (Starblaze Editions) before they went up on the web. If they're not in perfect condition he WILL be replacing them.

Seanan, if I were closer I'd help. I'm good at organizing and sorting.

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Date: 2011-07-14 07:41 pm (UTC)
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Oof. Good luck. That can be a rough process. I'd offer to help if I lived closer. If you want help unpacking when you eventually reach Seattle, I'd be happy to help.

Date: 2011-07-14 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com
wind up going to war over who owns

having had an assortment of roomies over the years, the funniest was when no one claimed the item, and the argument was over who we thought it belonged to. "NOT ME!" ... then the "where the hell did it come from then?" or "who left it here?" ...

Date: 2011-07-15 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
Those wars will probably also happen, it's true.

in regards to books...

Date: 2011-07-14 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biomekanic.livejournal.com
When I moved to Denver from PA, I left behind the vast majority of my book collection.

It was made up of my books, a number of books I swiped from my parents, and boxes of books that my aunt had sent; both her books and books from my grandfather who started the whole family tradition of reading SF/F when he was in the Naval Airforce prior to WWII.

In '94 I was finally in a place financially and dwelling wise to look into getting them shipped to me.

That was when my brother confessed that he hadn't paid the storage fee, and they'd sold off the contents.

"I got out the prints".

My dad and I both wanted to strangle him; he didn't think we'd have given him the $60* to keep them from selling the contents.

I had over 4000 books... along with an oak secretary, an antique cherry library table, 5 Persian rugs, my high school diploma, and a number of other personal items.

So yes, I deeply understand the book loss fear.

*If I could have punched him from Denver, he'd still be rolling around on the ground in pain after he told me that.

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Date: 2011-07-14 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
Oh gods, I would have had to kill my brother if that'd happened to me. O.O

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Date: 2011-07-14 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
Sounds like my house.}:P

We recently repainted, and I still have 3 boxes of stuff I want to go through and get rid of, since I opted not to have as mush stuff out and about.

I spent the last 6 months going through nearly everything we own and we've managed to get rid of maybe half of it so far. But man, is there still a lot of stuff.

I think it multiplies behind our backs.}:P

Date: 2011-07-15 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
It does! I have proof.

Date: 2011-07-14 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gentlewit.com (from livejournal.com)
I've never had someone claim a book of mine - and I definitely would fight tooth and nail if that did happen and I'm about the most anti-violent person there is. No, I had my garage flood and I lost some 250+ books. That was sad. So, my advice is when you move, don't delay the unpacking. (Even if your father says there's no room in the house!) I lost other good things in that flood, too. I try not to think about it.

Also, moving under any circumstances in my humble (and possibly expert, given the number of times I've moved in my short life) opinion is the suck. I keep saying that I won't move again until it's my dream house - that was three apartments and a not-dream house ago. Oh, well.

Date: 2011-07-18 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
I am trying to be done with moving. And believe me, I will be unpacking LIKE THE WIND.

Date: 2011-07-14 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qnofhrt.livejournal.com
I am currently trying to transform my place of residence from a welter of stuff* into something halfway functional.

Good luck. We moved into our current residence 5 years ago next month and we still can't get a vehicle into the garage. The husband jokes that everything is in there, right next to the Ark...

Date: 2011-07-14 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
It took us 10 years to get around to unpacking/sorting through boxes in the closests.}:P

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Date: 2011-07-14 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lacyjae.livejournal.com
I am starting to really love my move to ebook. Granted, it's not the same as a real book in my hands (and I am so tactile, I do LOVE that) and not all books are available (I'm looking at you, Rowling), but as far as space and packing... and space.... and oh gods, SPACE... I just can't help myself. I mean, the parentals and I moved into this house in 2005 and 98% of the books I owned before that are still packed in the garage. I could literally throw them all away and not remember what I would be missing beyond "I know I had most of so-and-so"... I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a house with enough space for enough shelves for the books I own, let alone my mother's collection as well.

It's kinda fun to go through all the stuff you've had sitting around for years, and purge some of it, though. :) I keep trying to do more of it... unfortunately being an arty/crafty person it's all "No, I swear, I WILL USE THIS FOR SOMETHING." For *everything*. Driving me mad. I don't have the space for all the junk people help me accumulate on top of everything I do for myself. :D

(Also, come to Canada! It's awesome here!)

Date: 2011-07-14 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briargrey.livejournal.com
lacyjae - I am so with you on the ebook thing. I get "real" book cravings, and I totally have to go buy some things in their paper form because of it, or sometimes just because I must have it ON MY SHELF, but I also enjoy the kindle I've got. I travel about 50% of the time for work, so it is invaluable. Lots of time in airports = lots of time to read = necessary ereader. Also irked at Rowling, but at least those are coming out in October on her website (seems arrogant to me, but if they will work on my kindle, I will deal).

(also, Canada = awesome. Spent 10 years on a summer swim league in Canada. Would live there in a heartbeat!)

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Date: 2011-07-14 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anderyn.livejournal.com
My very deepest sympathies. We just (as in less than a week ago) moved from an apartment that had seen 25 years of us to a house. I did not KNOW I owned so many books. I had like 40 boxes of them that I had literally forgotten were in the basement. This is not good. This is double plus ungood. So my task for the rest of the summer is two-fold -- to go through said boxes and put books (and craft supplies and rubber stamps and CDs and and and STUFF....) where they go, and to also decide which of these things I can live without. It is a pain in the patooshkie. Good luck with all of this. At least I can steal my husband's books without there being all-out war over who owns what, since he has likely forgotten whose book is whose anyway.

Date: 2011-07-15 04:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-07-14 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firynze.livejournal.com
I'll help you index stuff if you help me index and/or declutter. I REALLY need to get my life back in some semblance of order.

Date: 2011-07-15 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
Sadly, part of why I need help is a lack of time. So volunteering to help someone else only ends in disappointment.

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Date: 2011-07-14 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omnia-mutantur.livejournal.com
Of all the various wrongs my ex-roommate and I did each other, the one I remember most clearly is she took all of my Tamora Pierce.

Are you a library-thinger?

Date: 2011-07-15 04:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-07-14 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soundingsea.livejournal.com
Every move is focused on that sweet eventual goal: Seattle

I've only been there for a short train layover, but that will change in October for Geek Girl Con! (You planning on attending? It's an excuse to go to Seattle!)

Anybody want to come over and help me index stuff?

Love to, if plane tickets weren't what they are (and my own schedule weren't what it is.)

Date: 2011-07-18 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
I am not. Sadly, the invites went out after I had already confirmed another convention.

Date: 2011-07-14 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deanna rodriguez (from livejournal.com)
If there weren't thousands of miles in the way, I'd help you index. I'm way better at helping others get that done than doing it myself.

I'm in the process myself too, as we've lived in our current home for 5 years now and never completely moved in. There's so much I'm not doing because of that, and I finally have a helper with motivation enough for both of us.

Date: 2011-07-18 03:19 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-07-14 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymurmur.livejournal.com
I am currently trying to transform my place of residence from a welter of stuff* into something halfway functional.

We share a similar goal. Eventually we will move, and I am bound and determined that when we do, the only things we will be taking with us are those things we love and/or use.

Our household is the product of two packrats mating, so there is a LOT of stuff to go through. Progress has slowed a bit of late, but listening long-distance to my elderly parents packing to evacuate for the flood has renewed my motivation. (They saved the piano and all the instruments, but only a fraction of the books and LPs. *wails*)

Now, two packrat bibliophiles mating results in a pretty sizable library. :-D My favorite project of the last epoch has been sorting, organizing, and cataloging all the books. My "library database" (well, overstuffed spreadsheet) is a thing of beauty, to me at least. :-) Were I closer, I would LOVE to come help you index stuff!!

Date: 2011-07-14 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymurmur.livejournal.com
Also, "Dying With Her Cheerpants On" is one of my favorite ghost stories ever. EVAR!

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Date: 2011-07-14 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yellowblackhaze.livejournal.com
Moving...ugh! You have my sympathy. We moved house (not very far away mind you) over 2 years ago and we still haven't found a box full of my wife's teddy bears. We know they're in the house, we just don't know where. I live in fear that they're going to ambush us one day and take the place over.

Date: 2011-07-18 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
I think your fear is justified.

Date: 2011-07-14 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groblek.livejournal.com
Best of luck - I'd offer to come help (I'm oddly much better at organizing things for others than myself), but Baby Kosh turns us from a help to a hindrance.

And I so understand going to war over books improperly taken. I really need to get better at tracking who I've lent my precious ones to, so I know who to growl at when they don't come back.

Date: 2011-07-18 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
Yeah, babies do that.

Date: 2011-07-14 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morvab.livejournal.com
I am another who would love to come help you index stuff, except I live in Winnipeg, so not really practical. However, as a professional organizer by trade (well, former trade, just retiring) I applaud the effort to distinguish well in advance of the move what is important and what is not so important anymore to the person you are now. As a fanatical bibliophile I also applaud the effort to get the books very carefully sorted. My most beloved feature of my home and the reason I can never move is my main bookcase, built when we remodelled the roof a few years back. 22 feet long, 12 feet high, oak built in shelving with a rolling library ladder. I love the rest of my house (including the other 9 bookcases) but the built in is my best beloved. I would save my husband and the cats first, in case of fire, but I might just choose to go up in flames with the books!
You are at the in between stage which is so hard to live with - in order to de-clutter and organize you first have to increase the clutter by taking apart the stacks and saving boxes and all that - your brain will feel less cluttered once you start to get past the mid-point. Hang in there! And my mantra with clients was, when in doubt, to ask yourself "Under what circumstances would I use this again?" If there is not a really good answer, let it go make someone else happy!

Date: 2011-07-14 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
ask yourself "Under what circumstances would I use this again?" If there is not a really good answer, let it go make someone else happy!

And THAT is exactly how I managed to get rid of half of our stuff and to keep the adding back in to a minimum. No easy feat for a packrat and a semi-packrat.}:P

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Date: 2011-07-14 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briargrey.livejournal.com
If you need help when you get to the promised land (Seattle) *and* my ridiculous life schedule allows it, I'd be more than happy to meet you and help unpack books or something like that. Fondling other people's books is really just awesome. Heck, if the timing is right, I can bring 4 teenagers along, all mine, and authorize their use as effective slave labour. They're awesome and take direction well!

When I got divorced, the ex-to-be decided he got 50% of everything, no matter what, and he also invoked clauses like "I bought that before we got married, so it is absolutely mine", and he wound up with half the dishes, half the pots and pans, all of the electronics except 1 old tv, the bed and dresser set (good riddance, I hated them), and so on. I did draw the line at one point when he tried to divide the actual FOOD, including the spices, but the real war came when he tried to touch my book collection. I gave him a handful of the crap he liked and told him in no uncertain terms he wasn't touching anything else. Period. I probably would have killed him on the spot if he tried to touch my book collection (in retrospect saving me oodles of attorney money, because let's face it, justifiable)!

Hang in there with the move stuff -- during my 7 year marriage, we moved roughly 13 times including a few major moves (Seattle to Chicago, Chicago to Tracy CA, CA back to Seattle) and numerous moves within 5-120 miles of Seattle. Needless to say, packing became an artform. 12 years in my current place, the growing up of kids, and the addition of a spouse-equivalent -- urgh, I don't want to move again, and I don't envy you your move!

Date: 2011-07-18 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
...I am glad you didn't have to murder him. But no jury of your peers would have dreamed of convicting you.

Date: 2011-07-14 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vincentursus.livejournal.com
I used to think I was a bibliophile until I encountered a woman that was mildly horrified when I explained that I was engaged in the slow process of weeding my collection to remove those books that I felt were undeserving of shelf space.

A book that is worth reading is one thing, a book that is worth keeping on my shelf is another.

Date: 2011-07-18 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
I think you can be a bibliophile without loving all books unconditionally to the point of wanting to give them free room and board.

Date: 2011-07-15 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ducktape74.livejournal.com
Love to be of help when you get to Seattle! :)

I totally understand about the books - when we moved to Seattle about a month ago my husband suggested we downsize our library drastically. I considered downsizing my relationship! (j/k - but we did keep the books after all)

Date: 2011-07-18 04:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-07-15 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tula-peiwa.livejournal.com
Having just managed to find my floor (Wood! I remembered it being something woodlike) I came home today with...a bag of books, which was promptly placed on the floor. Where I have failed, may you succeed!

Also, if you need a pair of hands and a brain re: indexing, I'm about, Bay Area wise.

Moving out sans thermonuclear destruction is an achievable goal! Or so I hear.

Date: 2011-07-18 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com
Hey, man. Bringing new books into the house and having a place to put them down IS success.

It

Date: 2011-07-15 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] science-vixen.livejournal.com
So... How many copies of Stephen King's "It" are you keeping?

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did someone say index?

Date: 2011-07-15 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
I'd be happy to help index stuff (six years' experience in a library, right here, including a year spent independently managing collections, and then I moved up to keeping medical files), when I get back from Japan next month.
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