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seanan_mcguire ([personal profile] seanan_mcguire) wrote2010-02-12 10:49 am

Rich, lazy, author. Which of these doesn't apply?

Okay. So this article appeared in the New York Times, explaining, in brief, how authors are greedy bastards trying to screw the e-book reader. (I'm sorry, are my prejudices showing there? Oh, wait. Yes, they are. Because I like being able to feed my cats.) To quote one of the more charming bits:

"This book has been on the shelves for three weeks and is already in the remainder bins," wrote Wayne Fogel of The Villages, Fla., when he left a one-star review of Catherine Coulter's book KnockOut on Amazon. "$14.82 for the Kindle version is unbelievable. Some listings Amazon should refuse when the authors are trying to rip off Amazon's customers."

So let me see if I've got this straight, shall I?

1) The author sets the price, not the publisher.
2) The author is, apparently, getting a huge percentage of the cover price.
3) The right way to object to this is to make people think the book sucks.
4) It doesn't matter if this means the author can't sell another book; they shouldn't have been greedy.

Um, what?

There is this incredible, eye-burning, heart-shattering impression that all authors are rich; that we sign that first contract, receive that first check, and spend the rest of our days lounging on the beach in Bura-Bura while dictating our works of creative genius to a scantily-clad cabana boy named Chad. If this is true, something's wrong with my authorial contract. I've sold six books—by the standards of any beginning author, I'm doing pretty well—but Chad has yet to put in an appearance, and I'm still not sure where Bura-Bura is. Instead, I get up every morning at 5AM to travel an hour and a half to get to work, spend my evenings hammering away at my keyboard and praying for another sale, and all my grocery purchases are heavily influenced by what's currently on sale. I make a weekly trip to Target to stock up on frozen dinners and kitty litter, because I can't actually afford to let my cats crap on silken beds of cedar shavings hand-milled for them on a little organic farm in Minnesota. I buy sweaters at Goodwill, and consider myself blessed by the Great Pumpkin when I find an Ann Taylor top for five dollars, because it saves me a trip to the mall that I really shouldn't be making. And I'm doing well.

The fantastic [livejournal.com profile] rolanni has posted a very realistic view at a working author's finances. This is someone who's been publishing for years, and has actually reached the stage of getting royalty payments (not every book will reach the royalty stage; many books never actually earn back their advances). If anybody deserves their ticket to Bura-Bura, it's her. And she ain't on a plane right now.

Look: the $15 price point that some publishers are proposing is for the hardcover edition. The Kindle edition of Rosemary and Rue costs $6.39, which is 20% less than the price of the physical item. Because the physical books are published, at least currently, in bulk, 20% is a fairly valid reflection of the cost of paper and distribution. 80% of the cost of the book goes to the author, the editor, the copyeditor, the layout artist, the cover artist, the marketing department, and the magical mystery adventure we like to call "keeping the lights on at the publisher's office." Saying that an electronic copy of the book costs the publisher "nothing" is like saying that an MP3 of one of my songs costs me "nothing." So wait, I don't have to pay my recording engineer anything if I'm only selling virtual music? It's all free money? Score! Sure, Kristoph won't be able to make his mortgage payments or upgrade his equipment, but what do I care? Free money!

If publishers aren't allowed to charge more for the electronic editions of expensive books, they'll refuse to offer the electronic editions until the mass-market paperbacks come out. Hardcovers cost more for a variety of reasons—including the fact that often, hardcover authors are getting slightly larger advances. So that is, I suppose, a bit of authorial greed, because we're putting our desire to feed the cats (and ourselves) ahead of the consumer's desire to pay six dollars for something we spent two years writing. Sorry.

Also, these reactions are, well, hurtful. By saying that authors are "greedy" for wanting to make a living, people are saying that our time has no value. These are often the same people who will willingly pay ten dollars for a movie ticket (and ten more for popcorn and a soda), knowing that the actors were paid thousands, if not millions, of dollars to speak lines that somebody wrote. Every cool quip you've ever heard in a movie or on TV? Yeah, somebody wrote that. If somebody had been flipping burgers to keep the lights on, maybe somebody wouldn't have had the time to come up with that awesome line. Authors need to eat, and if we can't do that through our art, we'll find another way to do it...and things won't get written. I mean, look:

Time to write a book, six months to three years.
Time to sell a book, six days to eternity.
Time to edit a book, six months.
Time between publication and print, one to three years.

How much money do you make during that time? (Don't actually answer that, I don't want to know. I'm just making a point.) Unless you're Stephen King, writing is never going to make you rich, and saying you'd like to eat doesn't make you greedy, it makes you sane.

I am not saying that publishers should be charging whatever they want for everything—just that e-books cost money, too, and that not all the costs of creating a book are in the physical artifact you can point to and shout "book" about. My publisher wants to make money. My publisher wants me to make money, because when I'm making money, so are they, and more, when I'm making enough money, I can actually get that cabana boy and spend a lot more time writing. Right now, I'm literally working myself sick, spending three days in bed, and then doing it again, because that's the only way to stay on top of all the things I need to do.

Authors, as a class, aren't greedy. We're just tired.

Now where's my damn cabana boy?

[identity profile] deire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
If I had a cabana boy to offer, I would so send him your way.
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[personal profile] beccastareyes 2010-02-12 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I figure if something like a hardcover or a Playstation 3 is too expensive, then I wait for the price to drop*. Because things tend to do that once they pay off the initial development costs, whether they are books, DVDs or electronics. If I am impatient and have the money, then I can splurge and get something early, which I've been increasingly able to do with books. (Still not getting the PS3 until I work through all my old PS1 and 2 games...)

* This is also why I wait on buying anime DVDs -- I can pay $15-$20 for four episodes, or wait and pay $40 for a season box set.

[identity profile] liamstliam.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The Times appeared to take sides against the publishers/authors right from the initial news reporting of the situation.

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be awesome. I could make him clean the bathroom.

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Right. There are a lot of things I don't buy in hardcover, because I'm waiting for the paperback price drop.

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, which strikes me as odd, given that newspapers are published by publishers.
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[identity profile] lisa-marli.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Blaming the Authors, Who Do Not Set Book Prices, is just Stupid. That opinion person is being LAZY! Not to mention crazy.
I actually think the publishers are ripping off everyone when they charge $15 for an ebook. I can almost understand $10, but $15 is too high, and will hurt Everyone (including the authors) in the long run. But that's my opinion.
The worst is that it is not being set like the cover price, a suggested price which Amazon can dither with as they wish, but an AGENCY Price, in which the Publisher TELLS Amazon how much they will charge and Amazon can't decide anything. This is what Amazon was Fighting Against. Now your book will be overpriced at $15 Everywhere, and people will be mad at the cost of All ebooks. And thanks to this idiot and people like him, the Authors will be blamed for this money grab.
PS This really all goes back to Apple, which wanted it's ebooks for the iPad to cost more than $10 and they figured if they can get the publishers to force Amazon to go Agency, so that Apple ebooks and Kindle ebooks cost the same, then people won't want a 1-trick reader Kindle for the cheaper books.
Yeah, you really do have to read the Whole Story on all this ebook crap.
But it does explain why Amazon is Not Amused. And why Kindle has now been damaged in a major way.



[identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly! I was talking about something like this with my grandmother today. I think we get articles like the above (at least, in the US) because US Americans as a culture feel entitled to anything they want and don't value education, teaching and literacy overall. Hence, they feel that teachers should be under or unpaid, that college professors are snooty, disagreeable snobs who get paid for nothing, and writers are all rich and shiftless. This is about privileging certain kinds of work over others as well as the idea that people who don't do "real" work (that is, work that in a capitalist economy yields tangible work that yields tangible mone) should do it for the love and shut up already.

You know? I think I blame TV for this. Regardless of the fact that TV shows are paid for by advertising (as are newspapers), they were given to people initially for free -- and still are in the case of PBS and the big three networks.

I am VERY bitter and angry about this issue, can you tell? ;) I am also very, very tired as you say for exactly the same reasons as you -- having to bang out words fast while doing a day job (banging out words, too), so I know I am not exactly being coherent now. To echo a colleague of mine sitting across from me at the con where I am currently writing: "The caffiene is wearing off, so now you're getting the stupid Jo."

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I do understand why Amazon is upset, and I honestly think that if the $15 price point proves too high, it will be reduced. At the same time, I understand why the publishers felt the need to have the option. So many people get angry (and some strike out at authors in their anger) when they can't have The Hot New Hardcover in an electronic format the day it's published that something had to be done—and if that "something" is pricing it like a paperback, you've just killed your hardcover sales.

I'm glad to be a paperback author, and to have paperback pricing. But if I can ever sustain a career as a hardback author, and make more money, thus allowing me to spend more time writing, I'm going to want those hardbacks to sell. Saying "You can pay $25 for a paperback or $7 for an electronic version" makes that impossible, because no one will buy the hardback.

Now, maybe this heralds the eventual death of the mass-produced hardback book. I don't know. But with the current hardback/paperback structure and price points, the $15 is the start of finding a position that makes sense, and lets the lights stay on.

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The culture of entitlement is big and dangerous and scary, and it makes me very sad and even more exhausted than I would be otherwise. Which is probably dangerous, given how tired I am already.

[identity profile] deire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The $15 is the price you pay for reading it early in Kindle or hardcover--not for reading it at all. Just as one pays to see a movie in theater or waits for it on DVD. The publishers do bring prices down after the hardcover earns out.

My goodness, an industry not wanting to subsidize an Amazon product by being loss leaders and undercutting their hardcover early release. And leaping at a competitor with Amazon who does not in fact undercut them. What a surprise.

Not blaming the authors is good. But I'm not convinced blaming the publishers works either.

[identity profile] lysystratae.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I must be weirder than I thought; if i'm buying a book by an author I like, I don't even look to see how much it is (whether paper or kindle). On my Kindle purchases of people I haven't read before, I get the free sample first; if I like it, I buy it, again not looking at the price tag. I wouldn't dream of blaming the author for the price, any more than I would the nameless designer of a dress I just bought at Sears.

Hell, the price tag's right there on the order page. Don't like it, don't buy it - go shop in the free section and read a classic like Moby Dick. But don't give the book a bad review because you're feeling pissy about the price. Write to the publisher and bitch instead, where it might do some good.

[identity profile] deire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, but if you are MANAGEMENT you are indeed doing "real" work, never mind that what you mostly do is get in the way of productivity and worker satisfaction. That is socially valued, even though the job duties are no more tangible than those of a professor.

[identity profile] deire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Get out of my head. ;) I saw your reply right after I posted mine.

[identity profile] deire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
(((hugs)))

Can we just exile the offenders? Perhaps induce the Great Pumpkin to swallow them whole? Please?

[identity profile] angel-vixen.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
My family, full of teachers who are regularly lambasted for 'lounging upon their laurels,' would heartily agree that the Culture of Entitlement is slanted against educators. It gives me heartburn when my mother (the teacher to whom all the rough-edged kids are sent because "if she can't sort them out, no one can") comes home with tales of second graders looking up at her and saying "Mommy thaiths I don't have to listhen to you 'cauth you're a teacher, and teachers are rich, lazy, bathterds." I'd like to see those parents do half the work my mother's put in for almost 35 years now.

AngelVixen :-)

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Behold! For now we wear the human pants!

[identity profile] autographedcat.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been meaning to come visit anyway. I suppose I could knock that out while I'm there.
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[identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The NYT is going the way of the dodo for a reason; they can no longer report their way out of a wet paper bag. I've known about this situation for months, specifically since OryCon, when Mary Robinette Kowal explained things rather eloquently (but with much the same content as you have here). And I'm not exactly an insider... I mean, I follow you and [livejournal.com profile] annathepiper and Scalzi, but still.

I gotta wonder (especially given the earlier comment) if NYT doesn't have some sort of Agenda coming out on Amazon's side here... but I could be wrong. Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity? After all, NYT has never been the sharpest bowling ball in the knife block when it comes to electronica....

But, yeah, AFAICT the fans who give a damn are upset... and I can't speak for everybody but I'm damn happy to contribute fifteen bucks to your cabana boy fund for good quality product.. folks as want to cheap out should find themselves in the penny dreadful section. Including - especially! - Mr. Bezos.

[identity profile] lysystratae.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
They can always do what they did with Steven King's latest - make the available date a month after the hardback release date. From what i've seen over the years, by that point most of your 'oooo new book' hardback sales are done, and people are waiting for it to go on sale or the paperback to come out, so you haven't lost any sales.

Mind you, I don't have a problem with paying $15 instead of $9.99, either.

[identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)

Wait...is that $14.82 for the hardcover e-book, or for the mass market paperback e-book? That makes a difference in deciding what is considered a reasonable price...

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
$14.82 for the hardcover e-book. All of the "agency" model price structures have come with a steady decrease as the book ages, settling on the eventual mass market paperback e-book price.

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
When you visit, you are so not cleaning my bathroom. Dork.

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The Great Pumpkin is a jealous and a vengeful squash.

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