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seanan_mcguire ([personal profile] seanan_mcguire) wrote2010-02-12 10:49 am

Rich, lazy, author. Which of these doesn't apply?

Okay. So this article appeared in the New York Times, explaining, in brief, how authors are greedy bastards trying to screw the e-book reader. (I'm sorry, are my prejudices showing there? Oh, wait. Yes, they are. Because I like being able to feed my cats.) To quote one of the more charming bits:

"This book has been on the shelves for three weeks and is already in the remainder bins," wrote Wayne Fogel of The Villages, Fla., when he left a one-star review of Catherine Coulter's book KnockOut on Amazon. "$14.82 for the Kindle version is unbelievable. Some listings Amazon should refuse when the authors are trying to rip off Amazon's customers."

So let me see if I've got this straight, shall I?

1) The author sets the price, not the publisher.
2) The author is, apparently, getting a huge percentage of the cover price.
3) The right way to object to this is to make people think the book sucks.
4) It doesn't matter if this means the author can't sell another book; they shouldn't have been greedy.

Um, what?

There is this incredible, eye-burning, heart-shattering impression that all authors are rich; that we sign that first contract, receive that first check, and spend the rest of our days lounging on the beach in Bura-Bura while dictating our works of creative genius to a scantily-clad cabana boy named Chad. If this is true, something's wrong with my authorial contract. I've sold six books—by the standards of any beginning author, I'm doing pretty well—but Chad has yet to put in an appearance, and I'm still not sure where Bura-Bura is. Instead, I get up every morning at 5AM to travel an hour and a half to get to work, spend my evenings hammering away at my keyboard and praying for another sale, and all my grocery purchases are heavily influenced by what's currently on sale. I make a weekly trip to Target to stock up on frozen dinners and kitty litter, because I can't actually afford to let my cats crap on silken beds of cedar shavings hand-milled for them on a little organic farm in Minnesota. I buy sweaters at Goodwill, and consider myself blessed by the Great Pumpkin when I find an Ann Taylor top for five dollars, because it saves me a trip to the mall that I really shouldn't be making. And I'm doing well.

The fantastic [livejournal.com profile] rolanni has posted a very realistic view at a working author's finances. This is someone who's been publishing for years, and has actually reached the stage of getting royalty payments (not every book will reach the royalty stage; many books never actually earn back their advances). If anybody deserves their ticket to Bura-Bura, it's her. And she ain't on a plane right now.

Look: the $15 price point that some publishers are proposing is for the hardcover edition. The Kindle edition of Rosemary and Rue costs $6.39, which is 20% less than the price of the physical item. Because the physical books are published, at least currently, in bulk, 20% is a fairly valid reflection of the cost of paper and distribution. 80% of the cost of the book goes to the author, the editor, the copyeditor, the layout artist, the cover artist, the marketing department, and the magical mystery adventure we like to call "keeping the lights on at the publisher's office." Saying that an electronic copy of the book costs the publisher "nothing" is like saying that an MP3 of one of my songs costs me "nothing." So wait, I don't have to pay my recording engineer anything if I'm only selling virtual music? It's all free money? Score! Sure, Kristoph won't be able to make his mortgage payments or upgrade his equipment, but what do I care? Free money!

If publishers aren't allowed to charge more for the electronic editions of expensive books, they'll refuse to offer the electronic editions until the mass-market paperbacks come out. Hardcovers cost more for a variety of reasons—including the fact that often, hardcover authors are getting slightly larger advances. So that is, I suppose, a bit of authorial greed, because we're putting our desire to feed the cats (and ourselves) ahead of the consumer's desire to pay six dollars for something we spent two years writing. Sorry.

Also, these reactions are, well, hurtful. By saying that authors are "greedy" for wanting to make a living, people are saying that our time has no value. These are often the same people who will willingly pay ten dollars for a movie ticket (and ten more for popcorn and a soda), knowing that the actors were paid thousands, if not millions, of dollars to speak lines that somebody wrote. Every cool quip you've ever heard in a movie or on TV? Yeah, somebody wrote that. If somebody had been flipping burgers to keep the lights on, maybe somebody wouldn't have had the time to come up with that awesome line. Authors need to eat, and if we can't do that through our art, we'll find another way to do it...and things won't get written. I mean, look:

Time to write a book, six months to three years.
Time to sell a book, six days to eternity.
Time to edit a book, six months.
Time between publication and print, one to three years.

How much money do you make during that time? (Don't actually answer that, I don't want to know. I'm just making a point.) Unless you're Stephen King, writing is never going to make you rich, and saying you'd like to eat doesn't make you greedy, it makes you sane.

I am not saying that publishers should be charging whatever they want for everything—just that e-books cost money, too, and that not all the costs of creating a book are in the physical artifact you can point to and shout "book" about. My publisher wants to make money. My publisher wants me to make money, because when I'm making money, so are they, and more, when I'm making enough money, I can actually get that cabana boy and spend a lot more time writing. Right now, I'm literally working myself sick, spending three days in bed, and then doing it again, because that's the only way to stay on top of all the things I need to do.

Authors, as a class, aren't greedy. We're just tired.

Now where's my damn cabana boy?

[identity profile] seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
...wow, am I glad I didn't become a teacher. I would backhand that kid before my brain caught up with my rage. And then I'd go hunting for the parents.

[identity profile] naurwen.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Giving a bad review because the price seems too high could be hilarious if it wouldn't cause damage. That's just one stupid unfair thing to do.

Besides... who's forcing him to buy it if the price is oh-so high?
A just-out-of-print hardcover is always the more expensive version of a book. Same goes for the newest playstation game, a movie shown in the cinema, and dunno how many other things. Either one wants it and the price doesn't matter or one waits a bit to get the lower price version, or one waits some more to get the thing in a sale.
I can't see any of this as a rip-off cause we all have (ok, I'm NOT so sure about this) brains and can decide for ourselves. It's not like the author of a book gets me to the next bookshop poking a knife into my back and whispering *buy it!* (right?).

[identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)

In an environment where anyone with a blog, a barstool or a soapbox is considered worthy of serious consideration as long as they shout loudly, the worst person to be is the snooty elitist who has actually studied a subject and knows what she's talking about, and is therefore suspected of thinking she's better than someone else who has an opinion on the subject.

Even worse, expecting to get paid for her expertise, when thousands of people are willing to broadcast their opinions for free, and the validity of statements are evaluated by whether they move product and whether large numbers of people believe them loudly and strongly.

[identity profile] angel-vixen.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
My mother is the highest-paid teacher at her school (a long-fought battle so she could make a living wage to support a husband on disability and three children), and she makes less than half of what said parents do. I fully admit it makes me physically ill some days thinking about this as I clip coupons for her. My sibs and I have promised each other that the first one of us to become a millionaire is buying her a house so that she may finally retire...which proves just enough balm to prevent me from snapping someone's head off as they complain my mother doesn't earn her paycheck; I just smile and think "And I think I'll buy Adirondack chairs for her porch...".

I think you would be an awesome Science teacher, myself. I might have enjoyed it more if I'd had an instructor who had half your enjoyment/passion for it.

AngelVixen :-)

[identity profile] xjenavivex.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think your cabana boy got stuck in snow.

::applauds::

[identity profile] tikiera.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not going to buy an e-book that is more than $10. My budget allows for two of them at $10, it only allows for one book if they go up to $14. And it's not like I can make my budget bigger, or that I will find anything else to do with the $6 - that won't even buy an e-paperback. So, my book buying budget would go _down_ and I would end up with fewer books.

I stopped buying hardcovers because I didn't have room, I was only able to afford a very few of them, and only deeply discounted. I just ended up using the library. This meant no sales for authors, my book budget being spent on other things (getting to a bookstore is hard, and well, spending money on shipping books seemed kinda pointless).

The kindle has enabled me to constantly use up my book budget, authors were getting money 'cause I was buying books, and all was right with the world.

I am probably going to have to go back to the library with the raise in e-book prices. Sure, I will get some e-paperbacks, but it won't be my 'budget Tuesday, what do I want to get now'? 'cause it's not like the only books I will be getting at the library will be hardcovers.

An ebook doesn't compete with a hardcover sale for me (you could argue that it competes with an paperback sale, but then I would look at the pair of Ilona Andrews which were bought at my last 'I can get to a bookstore' budget period' which are also on my kindle and say, nope still getting in paperback what I would have otherwise gotten though more of that is through gifts, which again, adds to money going to the publisher).

E-Books compete with the movies (yes, I can get a ticket for $10 in my area), they compete with Starbucks, they compete with the library (and were winning) because those are the places my excess book budget goes. They don't compete with hardcovers because I had stopped buying them until I got my magic phone.

I have bought more books since I got my magic phone then in the last year. I am not the only one I know that is true for.

I am going to have to wait and see. A model where I had to wait a month or so to get it would work. Waiting for the paperback? Not going to happen for me.

I don't blame authors. I am worried for them. But I think the publishing industry is going to hurt itself by trying to cling to higher prices for something that the buyer doesn't truly own - we can't lend or share or sell our e-book, and it's DRM so we are stuck with the kindle software.
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[identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really glad you posted that timeline. Writing for a living requires a long lead time - something I keep trying to tell people when they ask me why I didn't do it (after going to school, after doing the internships, after, after, after....)

Cliff got sick. Inside of 24 hours, my desk job was the only income our household had. And for five years? I barely got sleep!

I gave myself permission to write in 1993. In 1994, I had to take it back. Thankfully, I was immediately able to make enough with computer ski11zors.

[identity profile] tikiera.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I do concur that giving a bad review for a high price is very, very bad. It's bad manners, it's bad form, and hurts an author in ways they can't do anything about.

And I would gladly beat such a person about the head and shoulders with a bag of oranges.

[identity profile] tikiera.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Waiting a month isn't bad. I can see that being a working model.

[identity profile] stormsdotter.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
On a slight tangent, all my Ralph Lauren and Ann Taylor sweaters come from eBay. The only things I buy off the rack are pants from Layne Bryant, becuase my Scottish hips won't fit into typical American jeans.

I don't want to be a writer to make money. I want to be a writer to give back some of the joy and wonder I've received from so many books.
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[personal profile] laurenthemself 2010-02-12 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I'm so sorry that some people don't get how the publishing industry works. I wish you didn't have to work yourself sick, and I hope that one day you'll get to the cabana-boy level of fame :)

[identity profile] allaboutm-e.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Word.
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[personal profile] beable 2010-02-12 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)

Not according to the crazy people in the article.

Apparently "electronic books don't cost anything" so there is no reason not to have them out - cheaply - when the hardcovers go on sale.

Asshats.

[identity profile] phantomdancer.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You know I talked to Chad and he said he wanted to surprise you, and be all setup with his loincloth and palm frond. Unfortunately Lilly and Alice took exception to his presence and said loincloth and palm frond provided very little physical protection. As soon as the lacerations heal he said he'll make an appointment to return, but he'll be wearing a full set of body armor...

[identity profile] redrob.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been an ebook reader for many years, and I've had this discussion many many times.

Among the many truly offensive ebook policies that publishers have perpetrated on us is that of charging 70% to 80% of the hardcover price for an ebook, regardless of publication date, if the paperback is out, etc. So I can buy a paperback for $8 (less if used), or, oh, $18 for an ebook? In what universe does that make sense?

Amazon's aggressive pricing policy has done a great deal to tone down this practice, but it still crops up every now and again. Including, oh, Macmillian Publishing! How about that! It took me no time at all to find several books on their own website that were priced at $25 hardcover, $8 paperback, and $14 ebook.

Do I sound bitter? I wonder why.

As for the issue of blame, I mostly blame publishers for this. The only thing I would blame authors for is a couple who believed / supported their publishers when said publisher told them, "Noes! Ebooks are eval! If you allow an ebook edition of our book (I mean your book! your book! Heh heh. Slip of the tongue there.) then you will die a penniless beggar!"

I'll leave the discussion of DRM for another time.

[identity profile] jaylake.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll phone you later from the hot tub in the back of my Porsche to discuss this vile calumny. Actually, I'll have my cabana girl phone your cabana boy to set up our call...

[identity profile] redrob.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
BTW - the examples I used - $14 to $18 for an ebook? Three to five years after initial publication.

[identity profile] phillip2637.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely don't get the logic of the person giving the bad review. It reminds me at least a little of software pirates who justify stealing with the excuse that the price of software is too high. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but I'm so old that I was brought up to do without things I couldn't afford...or save for them...or look for cheaper equivalents.

(OTOH, I don't get the meaning of "hardcover" vs. "paperback" Kindle editions either. Is it just a measure of timing or are the actual bits and bytes different?)
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[personal profile] beable 2010-02-12 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)

This brings up an interesting point.

I haven't bough a Kindle or similar device because I can't be arsed paying even $10 for a DRM'd book.

I bet the publishers/booksellers could make more money offering a non-DRM'd version for a premium (e.g. $15 for without DRM, $10 with).

[identity profile] maniakes.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Not only is Blame the Author deeply unfair considering the realities of the industry, but we're also seeing the One True Price fallacy rearing its ugly head. A thing is worth what someone's willing to pay for it or what someone's willing to sell it to you for, and that number is going to be different for every buyer and seller. If a particular eBook is not worth $15 to you, then don't buy it, and instead spend your $15 on something else that you'll get more use/enjoyment out of. And if it is worth $15 to you, then stop complaining and enjoy your consumer surplus.

I rarely buy new hardcover books anymore because they've gotten so expensive; very few books are worth $30 to me for the opportunity to read them right when they first come out in a big, durable format. But I buy tons of new and used paperbacks and quite a few used hardcovers because $5-10 is an excellent value for a good story or an interesting and informative bit of nonfiction. Different people have different preferences, though, which is why publishers still print hardcovers and charge what they charge for them. I don't begrudge it, since they buyers get what they want without harming me in the slightest; to the contrary, the additional money the publishers and authors make off hardcover sales increases the quality and quantity of reading material available for me when it eventually comes out in paperback.

I'm also the last person to begrudge anyone getting rich off of creating a good product at a price people are willing to pay, even if authors were getting rich left and right. Entertain enough people with your stories, and you deserve a cabana boy.

[identity profile] naurwen.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
a bag of oranges!
I like that. :D
slather him with orange juice and let a bunch of wasps chase him. muahahah.

[identity profile] rhoda-rants.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Be back to read the rest in a bit--right now, the crazy is not allowing me to move past the first paragraph without seeing red.
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[personal profile] jenk 2010-02-12 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
$8 paperback and $14 ebook is why I know people who pirate the ebooks they already own in paperback.

[identity profile] rhoda-rants.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity

...Someone should put that on a bumper sticker.
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[personal profile] jenk 2010-02-12 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It would be interesting to see demographics and quirks of hardcover buyers vs paperback vs ebook vs non-ebook readers. I'm a re-reader, so I have been known to replace paperbacks -- and generally if a second paperback is looking really worn, I start hunting for a good hardback (if it was ever published in hardback) because they're more durable. OTOH audiobooks put me to sleep and ebooks just don't appeal either. So even though I agree with you on DRM and think it would be cool for a publisher to experiment with non-DRM premium pricing, I'm not the target market.

Just musing a bit on preferences. I use the library *and* buy books in both hardback and paperback. For a while I was experimenting with a bunch of classic mystery series, for example, all from the library. The ones I loved I then bought. The ones I couldn't finish or hated? Not so much. ;)

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